Hornady Subsonic 45-70 Govt 410 Gr Sub-X

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Hornady Subsonic 45-70 Govt 410 Gr Sub-X (Box)
Official SpecValue
ManufacturerHornady
Cartridge45-70 Government
Product LineSubsonic
Bullet Name / Bullet TypeSub-X Flex Tip expanding, lead core
Bullet Weight410 gr
SKU / Part Number / Item Number82742
UPCNot found
Rounds per Box20
Muzzle Velocity1,075 fps
Muzzle Energy1,052 ft-lb
Ballistic Coefficient G10.285
Ballistic Coefficient G7Not found
Case MaterialNot found
PrimerNot found
ReloadableNot found
Test Barrel Length24 in
Zero Distance100 yd
Sight Height1.5 in
Intended UseSuppressed hunting and target shooting below the speed of sound
Product StatusCurrent manufacturer listing
Closest CompetitorsBuffalo Bore 45-70 Govt 405 gr Lead Flat Nose; Grizzly Cartridge 45-70 Govt 400 gr Hard Cast; Federal Premium 45-70 Govt 300 gr Trophy Bonded Tip; HSM Bear Load 45-70 Government 430 gr RNFP Gas Check; Underwood Ammo 45-70 Govt 405 gr Hard Cast; Cor-Bon 45-70 Govt 405 gr Bonded Core

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Hornady Subsonic 45-70 Govt 410 Gr Sub-X (Box)
Hornady Subsonic 45-70 Govt 410 Gr Sub-X (Box)
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Ballistics Table – 100-Yard Zero

Calculated reference – not manufacturer data. G1 point-mass reference using BC 0.285, 1,075 fps muzzle velocity, 410 gr bullet, 100-yard zero and 1.5-inch sight height. Atmosphere: sea level, 59 F, 29.92 inHg, dry air, no wind. The 25-yard rows use shape-preserving interpolation between calculated 50-yard outputs.

Range (yd)Velocity (fps)Energy (ft-lb)Trajectory (in)
01,0751,052-1.5
251,0511,006+2.0
501,029964+3.3
751,009927+2.3
1009918930.0
125973862-4.8
150957834-12.2
175942808-21.8
200928784-33.9
225914761-48.4
250901739-65.6
275889719-85.4
300877700-108.1

Key takeaway: This table is a trajectory reference under the stated conditions, not a terminal-performance test or a recommended maximum hunting range.

The Sub-X Bullet and Why This Load Exists

Hornady designed the Sub-X as a subsonic expanding, lead-core bullet with a Flex Tip. Item 82742 is rated at 1,075 fps. No universal expansion guarantee or minimum impact velocity for this exact factory load was verified.

The 45-70 Government cartridge has an unusually broad velocity window, having been originally designed for black powder at around 1,350 fps and later downloaded for lever-action use. This flexibility makes it one of the few rifle cartridges that can be loaded to a genuinely subsonic standard while still driving a 410 gr projectile — a mass that carries enough sectional density and momentum to perform on large game at close range even without high velocity. Hornady’s decision to build a subsonic 45-70 load around this bullet weight reflects that physics: when velocity is intentionally constrained, bullet mass and construction become the primary drivers of terminal performance.

A subsonic projectile avoids a supersonic crack only while below the local speed of sound. Muzzle blast remains. Suppression does not establish that a firearm is hearing-safe; use appropriate hearing protection. No verified decibel figure was found for this exact load and suppressor combination.

Best Uses

Good fit:

  • Suppressed hunting of hogs, black bear, and whitetail deer at ranges inside 150 yards
  • Close-range lever-action or single-shot rifle use where appropriate hearing protection is used
  • Noise-sensitive hunting environments such as residential-adjacent properties or areas where repeated shots may disturb livestock or neighbors
  • Shooters who want to run a suppressed 45-70 platform and need a factory load specified at 1,075 fps under factory test conditions
  • Training and range use where reduced muzzle blast is desirable without switching calibers

Not the right tool for:

  • Shots beyond 175–200 yards, where trajectory drop becomes difficult to manage reliably
  • Hunting large, dangerous game (bison, Cape buffalo, brown bear) where maximum energy and penetration depth are critical — the subsonic velocity ceiling limits retained energy at distance
  • Semi-automatic platforms that require supersonic pressure curves to cycle reliably — function should be verified before field use
  • Shooters without a suppressor who want a quiet experience — without a can, the report reduction compared to standard 45-70 loads is modest, not dramatic
  • High-volume target shooting where cost per round is a primary concern

Reliability Notes

No structured submissions yet.

Hornady publishes 1,075 fps, 1,052 ft-lbs and G1 BC 0.285 for item 82742. The factory table uses a 200-yard row but a 100-yard zero; the former assumptions of 1,050 fps and BC 0.270 have been removed. No structured, load-specific reliability test is presented here. Component details or general reputation should not be treated as proof of feeding, accuracy or absence of defects.

Competitors

LoadWeightBulletBC G1Muzzle VelocityNotes
Buffalo Bore 45-70 Govt 405 gr Lead Flat Nose405 grCast Lead Flat NoseNot verifiedNot verifiedExact factory item and these comparison figures were not verified in this audit.
Grizzly Cartridge 45-70 Govt 400 gr Hard Cast400 grHard Cast Lead Flat NoseNot verifiedNot verifiedExact factory item and these comparison figures were not verified in this audit.
Federal Premium 45-70 Govt 300 gr Trophy Bonded Tip300 grTrophy Bonded TipNot verifiedNot verifiedExact factory item and these comparison figures were not verified in this audit.
HSM Bear Load 45-70 Government 430 gr RNFP Gas Check430 grHard cast RNFP, gas check0.2301,801 fpsExact published load; compare its own manufacturer conditions.
Underwood Ammo 45-70 Govt 405 gr Hard Cast405 grHard Cast LeadNot verifiedNot verifiedExact factory item and these comparison figures were not verified in this audit.
Cor-Bon 45-70 Govt 405 gr Bonded Core405 grBonded Soft PointNot verifiedNot verifiedExact factory item and these comparison figures were not verified in this audit.

Note: No direct factory competitors offer the same Sub-X Flex Tip bullet design. Most competing heavy 45-70 loads in the subsonic or near-subsonic range use hard cast flat nose projectiles optimized for penetration rather than controlled expansion. Buyers choosing between these loads are effectively choosing between two terminal performance philosophies: expanding (Sub-X) versus non-expanding (hard cast).

FAQ

Does the Sub-X bullet actually expand reliably at subsonic velocities, or does it perform like a non-expanding hard cast load?

Hornady designed the Sub-X as a subsonic expanding, lead-core bullet with a Flex Tip. Item 82742 is rated at 1,075 fps. No universal expansion guarantee or minimum impact velocity for this exact factory load was verified.

Is this load safe to use in older or vintage 45-70 rifles chambered for trapdoor Springfield or early lever-action pressure limits?

The cartridge name alone does not establish firearm compatibility. Follow the instructions for the exact ammunition and firearm. Low velocity is not proof of low chamber pressure; obtain explicit approval for antique or reproduction actions.

How much quieter is this load compared to standard 45-70 ammunition, with and without a suppressor?

A subsonic projectile avoids a supersonic crack only while below the local speed of sound. Muzzle blast remains. Suppression does not establish that a firearm is hearing-safe; use appropriate hearing protection. No verified decibel figure was found for this exact load and suppressor combination.

How does this load compare directly to the Buffalo Bore 45-70 subsonic offering for hog hunting?

The exact Buffalo Bore subsonic item in the earlier comparison was not verified. A different bullet weight, construction or pressure tier cannot substitute for it. No matched terminal-performance comparison is established here.

Can this ammunition be used in a lever-action rifle without a suppressor for deer hunting in states with subsonic-only regulations?

The Subsonic label does not itself require a suppressor or establish legal eligibility for a particular hunting zone. The earlier claim about subsonic-only U.S. zones was not verified. Check firearm compatibility and current local rules separately.

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